When we’re raising caterpillars in our homes, we are fighting nature. Nature has a goal of killing 98% of them before they become adult butterflies. The odds are stacked against us before we even bring a caterpillar from our garden to our home.
Nature uses disease as one method to keep a butterfly species alive while killing most caterpillars.
NPV – Nuclear Polyhedrosis Virus – is one of the worst diseases. One caterpillar can have a billion virus particles in its body. The virus causes caterpillars to crawl upward before they die. The caterpillar or chrysalis turns to liquid and the virus particles drip and splash, covering a large area as it rains or we water or gardens. Another caterpillar needs only to eat a leaf with invisible virus particles on it and it will soon die of the disease too.
Anal prolapse may happen naturally. It can also be caused by exposure to some pesticides. The digestive tract begins to come out of the caterpillar’s anus. When this happens, the caterpillar will die.
It is natural for a chrysalis to be deformed or fail to finish forming properly. It shouldn’t happen often. If it happens to more than a couple at a time, chances are that they have been exposed to a pesticide. Some pesticides cause failure to pupate.
Bt is a natural soil-dwelling bacteria. When caterpillars take a bite of food that includes Bt, its gut lining begins to break down and it stops eating. Three days later, the caterpillars die. One of the first signs of Bt ingestion is what you see in the photo above. Caterpillars had been given fresh food 18 hours earlier and didn’t eat more than a couple of bites
Chrysalises can dehydrate if they are in a dry area. In nature, they usually have plenty of humidity from the plants around it. In captivity, they sometimes die from lack of humidity. The butterflies fully form yet die before emerging. The tell-tell sign is that chrysalises are light as a cotton ball and when broken open, they are dry inside.
Fungi kills caterpillars, chrysalises, and adult moths and butterflies. When you touch caterpillars or their food, always wash well first. It is easy to track/carry spores with you as you touch a plant in nature with the spores before picking food for your caterpillars.
Caterpillars that are exposed to certain pesticides will spit or vomit green liquid. Some spit green as a defensive mechanism. In time, you’ll learn which naturally spit green when touched and which are reacting to pesticide exposure. Spit/vomit stays green. Hemolymph (like blood) that drips from a caterpillar or chrysalis will turn black or gray within five minutes.
One of the signs of disease is abnormal coloration of caterpillars. Sometimes the abnormal color is natural, from cooler weather or genetics, but sometimes it is from disease.
There are many signs that you can see from bacterial infection. An abnormal color of caterpillars or chrysalises can be caused by bacterial infection.
Caterpillars should do a complete molt, their cuticles coming off in one piece. When a molt looks like this, it is a sign of other problems, disease or even a too-dry environment.
OE (Ophryocystis elektroscirrha) is a protozoan parasite that infects Monarch, Queen, and other species that host on milkweed. In the photo above, we see the discolored abdomen and crumpled wings, classic signs of OE. The adult butterfly is often sticky with a darker than normal abdomen. Quite often, in the worst cases, adult butterflies cannot get out of their chrysalis shells.
What can you do? Use caution. Stay clean. Clean the rearing area well. Disinfect rearing containers between every generation of caterpillars. Check every milkweed-eating butterfly for OE spores. Avoid pesticides. When purchasing host plants, ask if they have been treated for plant pests and be aware that the retail nursery may not have been told if the wholesale nursery has treated the plants earlier. Remember that organic pesticides are as deadly as inorganic pesticides – both are created to kill plant pests.
Be aware that when you bring in a caterpillar, it may already have had a death sentence and you can do nothing about it. Focus on the butterflies and moths that you raise successfully.
Thank you all for what YOU do for butterflies!
24 thoughts on “What killed my caterpillars?”
These were very interesting and helpful facts, ( but not fun facts). 😢
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 1:50 PM Butterfly Fun Facts wrote:
> Edith Ellen Smith posted: ” When we’re raising caterpillars in our homes, > we are fighting nature. Nature has a goal of killing 98% of them before > they become adult butterflies. The odds are stacked against us before we > even bring a caterpillar from our garden to our home. Natu” >
Agreed! That’s why the page adds “and not-so-fun facts”. 😉
I’ve been raising monarchs for 3 years and I had a caterpillar make its chrysalis today but then i noticed black goo everywhere on the leaves and on the chrysalis and i was very worried does anybody know if the caterpillar might make it inside of its chrysalis
Thank you so much Edith!!! Great info!
Great information. I am always sad when raising monarchs that sometimes they just die before completion of all their different stages . Thank you for that detailed information! Very helpful.
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I’m new to caterpillar rearing. Recently i had a few common jay caterpillars (each in different instars), and they all died squirming and oozing some brown liquid from their mouths 😦
I’m not sure what caused this, they were fine for a week or two and then all of them simultaneously died the same way. The brown liquid left dark stains and the caterpillars were covered with it. I couldn’t find any such case on the Internet, so I would be extremely grateful for any information I could get.
I suspect some type of pesticide that acts on nerves, like a cholinesterase inhibitor. Normally them spot/vomit green, so that part confuses me. Do you have pets with flea/tick medication? I’d so love to see a Common Jay. They aren’t here in the United States.
This year all of our catepillars and even chrysalises keep disappearing. We think we have black swallowtail add they are on natural flourishing anise. Years before have always been successful. Could it be a new bird in the area actually taking them? What type of bird would like them?
There are many species of birds that eat caterpillars and chrysalises. In addition to birds, there are wasps, mice, squirrels, spiders, and dozens of other predators that eat them. It sounds like this was just a year for predators in your yard. I’m sorry. Hopefully next year you’ll see more make it to become adults. Many people bring them indoors to raise them, simply to save them from predators.
Thank you, Ms. Smith, for taking time to respond. I’ll check into maybe putting up a temporary screen over the anise next year. Bringing indoors won’t work due to our indoor cats.
The milkweed that grew in my garden (spontaneously) was covered with a red and black bug (nothing like the lantern flies that are endangering our trees). I had no caterpillars and the milkweed looked eaten and dry with lots of white spots. I decided to cut it back And found one healthy-looking caterpillar and immediately brought it to the hatchery. I’m hoping for one monarch this summer. This was about the third year for that milkweed. The first year I had many butterflies; the second year a very few; this third year only the one. Is the wild milkweed not a good host in my garden?
It is a great host. It is always a bit of hit-and-miss when it comes to caterpillars. Some years they will eat you out of house and home while other years they almost (or do) totally ignore you. Wild milkweed is great and so is milkweed that you buy at nurseries.
What is causing my blackmail cats to borrow in the dirt? And I assume die?
I’m not sure what you mean. I think auto-correct took over your keyboard!
I’m not sure what you mean by blackmail. I think your autocorrect kidnapped your keyboard!
If a caterpillar has eaten a host plant treated with pesticides, is it too late for them? If only one has spit up and died, can the others still be saved if they’re all eating the same food but the others appear to be fine? I’ve got 10 European Swallowtails, but 4 of them have died through unknown causes and one was accidentally squished upon arrival. 3 of them simply stopped moving and shrivelled up, turning black, but today I saw one of them had died in its vomit (or at least what I’m assuming is vomit) and now I’m worried my remaining 5 will eventually die from eating fennel that’s been treated with pesticides.
It all depends on the pesticide, how fresh the pesticide is, and how much they ate, breathed, or were exposed to. I would rinse and give fresh food. If you have pets with oral or topical flea/tick medication, that may be the problem. Even the oral medication gets on our hands, days or weeks later. It goes into the pet’s system and the oils that it excudes on its skin. It is normal for caterpillars to turn black after they die but to turn black before is an issue of disease (although some pesticides could cause it). I’m so sorry.
Thanks so much for your reply. For now, I’ve bleached everything and will be washing their food cuttings with bleach, just in case. I’ve also bought a Dettol disinfectant spray which I’ll be using to spray the room before opening their container from now on. I actually bought some Bath White larvae as I waited for my Swallowtail order, but they all died in just a few days. They were very lethargic when they arrived and one actually passed a few hours after the package came! The poor thing was writhing before I even opened the container, so I suspect they had some sort of virus and all of them had already been infected. I raised 30 Small Tortoiseshells a few years ago, and 27 successfully became butterflies, and that was my very first time raising butterflies at all. The three that died were accidents; one got stuck to some tape I used to keep the sticks for them to pupate on standing up, another fell down as a pupa and I crushed it as I tried to hang it up again, and the last one made it to adulthood, but pupated in a plastic container so when it emerged, it had nothing to hold on to. Because of that as my first experience, all this death (in the first instar no less) is very new to me, but I’m learning from it at least. My remaining five seem healthy, so fingers crossed.
Many of us learned the hard way not to emerge them in a slick-sided container. It happens and we learn.
Molting is something that is often misunderstood and people often believe that caterpillars are dead when they are molting. If you aren’t familiar with molting, please be aware that they sit still for about two days, without moving, when they are molting. The rule is to never move a caterpillar unless it is moving on its own. Touch or tease its rear end and if it doesn’t move its rear legs (prolegs), it can kill it if you move it (some species). If a caterpillar has been moved from where it is attached while it prepares to molt, it will often look as if it is writhing when it tries to molt.
Writhing is usually associated with pesticides. If they are normal color, writhing, and spitting green, the first suspect isn’t a disease. Did you take photos? Every now and then, a package in transit will become too hot (the carrier places it in direct sun or near something hot). That can kill caterpillars.
Did you take photos? We recommend that everyone take photos when something goes wrong. Photos often tell the whole story when someone with an experienced eye sees them.
I’m so sorry you had a bad experience. Because I live in the US, I haven’t raised those species but I know that similar species usually have similar rearing protocols.
I wouldn’t use Dettol where caterpillars can touch anything it touches unless all those items are washed afterward. Dettol contains ingredients that are deadly to caterpillars. I’m not sure about the main ingredient but it can be toxic to other critters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroxylenol
Please feel free to email me at firstname.lastname@example.org with any photos you have or other questions/comments or continue to use this forum. Either works well for me.
Again, I’m sorry you’re having problems. We all did at first and we learn in the process.
Best wishes, Edith
Thanks for this article. I’ve raise gulf fritillarys through the whole life cycle and that was amazing! I’m just now starting with 3 eastern swallowtails off my organic, no chemicals, dill. My red wasps were eyeing them so I set up a habitat inside. They are all quite large and probably in their 4th or 5th instar My question is this: my smallest one has crawled to the top of th habitat away from the host plant and has attached to the top. Color has faded, “j” shape body and a large black puddle right under where it’s hanging. I’m wondering if it’s molting or going to chrysalis? I have put in a branch for it to do that, but it’s position doesn’t seem right for a chrysalis. How long does the molting process take?
Molting takes up to 48 hours. Pupation takes up to 48 hours. The black puddle is most likely its gut dump. Just before pupating, swallowtails empty their digestive systems with one messy big glob of frass.
Hii, can anyone please tell me what is happening to my black swallotails? They keep vomiting green and then make a brown liquid that comes of of their front area. Once one does it they all die and I have to clean the cage CONSTANLY. I try not to touch them much, and I always rinse of their food before I give it to them. This all started with one who made brown liquid, so I moved him to another container, washed out the cage with the others in it, and the rest started dying the next day. I only have 5 of 12 left.
The brown liquid is nasty, and I can get any answers after researching. If anyone raises eastern black swallotails, pls let me know.
Vomiting green is an almost-positive sign of pesticides. Pet medication (even oral for dogs and cats) can be deadly to caterpillars. If you pet an animal with pet medication and then touch the caterpillar’s food, it can kill the caterpillars. I’m so sorry.
Thanks! I have both cats and a dog, none get medication I know of, and I don’t usually touch my dog’s mouth.
They only vomited green after it threw up brown liquid. the others didn’t though. all but three have died from the same brown liquid coming out of them.