Spit/vomit or blood?

Green liquid with caterpillars normally means either stress or insecticides. Some species immediately spit when they are touched. Skippers are notorious for this reflex. Other species tend to spit when they have been exposed to insecticides. Because of this, green stains in with caterpillars is a sign of possible problems.

But their hemolymph (comparable to blood) is also green. When we see green, how do we know if it is hemolymph or spit? Simple. Spit stays green and hemolymph turns dark within five minutes.

A crushed chrysalis has spilled out green hemolymph (their version of blood). Within five minutes, hemolymph turns dark or black. Spit/vomit, from insecticide exposure, stays green.
A Monarch caterpillar walked over a fresh chrysalis, tearing its cuticle (like skin), and leaving a trail of footprints in hemolymph.
Watch for green, like in this photo. When you see it, check for insecticide exposure. Remember, flea/tick medication is also an insecticide.

Remember, oral and topical flea/tick medication is also an insecticide. The ‘medication’ (insecticide) is exuded by your dog’s body through his skin and dander. When you pet your cat or dog, you are transferring the insecticide from your dog’s body to your hands.

Use of insect spray/treatment even in rooms behind closed doors on the other end of the house can travel through the air and a/c ducts to the room where caterpillars are eating. A spray was used 30′ away from this habitat with closed doors between the habitat and the spray. Every caterpillar died.

All the caterpillars in this habitat died from an insecticide used 30′ away behind closed doors.

What color is the Monarch chrysalis shell?

When we see a green Monarch chrysalis, we think of it as a green shell/cuticle. Actually, it’s a pale green. The bright green we see is the developing butterfly.

Maturing Monarch chrysalis/butterfly

As the butterfly matures, we see the color begin to form a day or two before it emerges.

We took a badly deformed chrysalis and euthanized it. We scraped the contents off the shell. This is what the shell looks like without a developing butterfly inside.

An empty Monarch chrysalis is pale green, not the rich green that we associate with Monarch chrysalises.

Protect the plant!

It’s delightful when caterpillars eat the plants enthusiasts grow for them. We watch them grow, pupate, and emerge as beautiful adults. We release them into our yards and other areas. BUT …

… before long, while using the same plants once they grow new leaves, there are caterpillar disease issues. We didn’t treat the plant with insecticides. We can’t figure out why they are dying.

Diseased Gulf Fritillary butterfly caterpillar

If we have used living plants and reuse the same plants, what about the disease pathogens they may leave on the plant, pot, and soil? Some butterfly diseases are so slight that they aren’t noticed at first. After a while, the pathogens build up and young caterpillars, the next generation or two, eat the pathogens after the plant has grown new leaves.

If only there was a way to protect the pot and soil! Oh, wait … there IS!

Simply take a plastic bag and cover the pot. This is a great use for plastic grocery bags. Tie it tight around the stem.

Protect the pot and soil from disease pathogens by tying a plastic bag around the pot and over the soil. Plastic grocery bags are perfect for this purpose.

Once caterpillars have eaten the leaves, cut off the bag and dispose of it. Cut the plant back to only a few inches tall. In a few weeks, it will bush out and be ready for more caterpillars.

A tropical milkweed plant branches beautifully once it has been cut back to 3″ tall.

If you water the plant well before tying the bag shut, you won’t need to water it again until you take it out of the popup habitat. The plastic bag usually keeps the soil moist for a week or more.

Polydamas or Pipevine?

Finding eggs on pipevine plants is exciting. For most of the United States, it is easy to know which laid the eggs, Polydamas (Gold Rim) Swallowtail or Pipevine Swallowtail. For the states where both species are found, confusion can reign.

Gold Rim (Polydamas) Swallowtail and Pipevine Swallowtail eggs
were laid on the same pipevine plant.

It is simple to tell the difference. Pipevine Swallowtail eggs are burgundy red. Polydamas (Gold Rim) eggs are yellow.

Top: Pipevine Swallowtail burgundy-red eggs
Bottom: Polydamas (Gold Rim) Swallowtail yellow eggs

Although female butterflies usually lay eggs on the correct species of pipevine, sometimes they make mistakes. Here is a partial list of which pipevine species are a host for which butterfly species.

Mosquito spraying … what to do?

Mosquito spraying can kill caterpillars. In Florida, the government has been testing different sprays for a few years, adapting to find the insecticide that is most damaging to mosquitoes and least damaging to butterflies. We’ve supplied the caterpillars and adults for these tests for nearly ten years. I wish all states would do the same, test the insecticides on local native species of butterflies. It is better to sacrifice some with the goal of saving a larger number in the short and long run.


If you know the fogging truck is coming or they will be doing aerial spraying, cover your plants quickly.


Approach your city/county agency that is responsible for fogging/spraying with trucks. Explain the situation with Monarch butterflies. Be prepared with government articles/documents printed out and take them with you. Read the articles first and make sure you understand them so you can discuss the situation yourself. You can find some government articles online. Ask them which insecticide is being used. Do research and find out how the active ingredient works. Does it affect only mosquitoes? Does it affect caterpillars and butterflies? Ask for your area (in front of your house) not be sprayed.


To talk to someone about aerial spraying, talk to the people who make those decisions on the state level. Again, be prepared with good, reliable, accurate information. Ask that you be notified before they spray. Because of drift issues from air spraying, asking not to be sprayed may do little to zero good. They may do their best to avoid your yard but a simple gust of wind can change all that. Prior notification is safest.


Remember:

1. Be prepared with articles from reliable sources, preferably a government agency or university publication. Understand the articles yourself so you can discuss them intelligently.

2. Don’t be afraid to say, “I don’t know but I’ll research and find out.” Saying something as fact that is inaccurate will undermine all your efforts. If they know you’re not telling the truth about something, why should they believe anything you say?

3. Be kind. Be patient. Don’t be angry. Use a calm tone of voice. Anger, yelling, name-calling … all these undermine your efforts. Few people will respond well to threats or anger. Most will decide, right then and there, that they don’t want to reward rudeness and bad behavior by doing what you want. One person, recently, made a difference by staying calm and being kind. When the decision was made to do what she asked, she was told that the reason it went her way was due to her attitude more than anything else. Remember, the person you are talking with is rarely the one making the decision. You need that person to move your request to a higher level, or to tell you who to talk with about the issue who has the authority to make those decisions. Don’t blame the person who is simply doing his/her job and cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, make those decisions.

4. In some areas, the decision to spray is about human lives. In south Florida, there were some bad mosquito-borne diseases around in the last decade. Those involved in spraying need to know that you value human lives too, more than butterflies. We may disagree on how to protect human lives but when you argue against spraying altogether, it will be translated as valuing butterflies more than humans. Sometimes it isn’t the truth that matters (that you do value humans more) but the perception that the other person has. (The official who can’t imagine any other way to control mosquitoes will think you value butterflies more than humans if you attack any and all mosquito spraying.)


Side note: Be aware that the insecticide can become active in water and run over and splash onto your plants. If your plants are in pots, don’t place the pots directly on the grass or soil. Place them in saucers or on bricks/rocks, lifted off the ground. Keep your sheets or whatever you use to cover your plants in a readily accessible area so you can grab and cover in just a few minutes. When you hear that truck, you may only have two minutes.

Don’t plant host plants next to my house? Why not?

It’s our instinct to plant beautiful host plants next to our house. In reality, it is best to plant them 20′ and more away from the foundation. If your house is on a slope, plant host plants uphill, not downhill.

Aquatic milkweed – Asclepias perennis

Too often people end up with an insect that is causing problems, such as termites, roaches, or ants. When the house and/or foundation is treated, the insecticide can travel laterally though the soil 15′ and more. The insecticide will then be absorbed by the host plant’s roots and the plant will become deadly to our caterpillars.

If we plant downhill, a good rain or irrigation will wash the insecticide down the slope to the roots of host plants, causing them to become deadly to caterpillars.

A Queen caterpillars eats a leaf of Charlotte’s Blush variegated milkweed

When we had termites in our walls, we caught it in time. Our foundation now must be treated every year but our house did not need to be tented. Each time, ant beds within 15′ of the house are soon covered with a thick layer of dead ants. Two months after treatment, I mistakenly used cudweed growing next to the house to feed American Lady caterpillars. Every one died.

Because we live in north Florida with sandy soil, we are able to have our house treated in late fall, after butterflies quit laying eggs. By spring, when butterflies begin laying eggs again, the insecticide is washed away. In the north or where soil has a good deal of clay or loam, this may not be an option. We no longer plant host plants near our house, even though we changed treatment time to late fall. It just isn’t safe enough for butterflies.

No neonicotinoids?

Does that mean the plant is safe for caterpillars? Absolutely not.

People are excited when nurseries stop using neonicotinoid pesticides. Of course! It’s a good thing. The question is whether we remember that neonicotinoids are only ONE grouping of pesticides. There are many pesticides that are not neonicotinoids.

neonicotinoid label
neonicotinoid label

Two plants can be grown exactly the same, next to each other, one treated with neonicotinoids and the other with a non-neonicotinoid pesticide. Caterpillars eating either plant will be just as dead.

Remember, the fact that a plant isn’t treated with neonicotinoids doesn’t mean it is safe for caterpillars.